"Mark M, post: 131922, member: 5058" said:
Actually I also meant to say you are right about Thundercats on DVD in the UK. There are quite a lot of various cartoons that were never fully released in the UK yet the released all your season, 130 episodes of Thundercats. Masters of the Universe, Ghostbusters, TMNT and others only got one or two volumes and many got no DVD releae at all.
Austin and Bret's match at Wrestlemania 13 was awesome, one of the best.
I listened to an interview with Austin and he said his heel turn at Wrestlemania 17 just before the Two Man Power Trip was a big mistake. Triple H was always a great heel but people really weren't keen on Austin as a heel chatacter.
The Vader scenes were pretty the best thing about Rogue One. Clone Wars is pretty awesome, Anakin was a lot more interesting and various stories would have made a better movie than Episode 1 and 2.
We should probably start a conversation not in this thread then we can talk about UK cartoons, Star Wars and wrestling. :biggrin
Yes, I was glad we got every episode on DVD. At least that is one example where Thundercats actually sells. This idea that it doesn't sell could actually be a myth. I know that it isn't as big as other franchises but I don't think there has been enough to go on to suggest that it doesn't sell. When it comes to 80's cartoons, I don't think there is anything better but Thundercats exists only as an 80's cartoon whereas some other 80's franchises are more than that and are therefore bigger. We know that MOTU is bigger but I don't believe that it's due to the 80's cartoon alone. I believe it was already an existing franchise. I think it's a great franchise but when I watch the old MOTU cartoons, I'm not that impressed but I thought the 2002 show was brilliant. When I was kid, it was books and comics of MOTU that got me liking it and made me want to watch it because the artwork looked fantastic. The 80's show is not how I would have imagined it being brought to life. To me, Thundercats is an example of what the MOTU cartoon could have been and should have been in the 80's. They didn't manage to do it to that standard until 2002 but due to bad timing, it didn't really thrive. I believe that it would have in the 80's and 90's. I know that there are many differences between Thundercats and MOTU but they are a similar genre. In the 80's, Thundercats was animated better, had better action sequences, scenery, voice acting, music and storylines in my opinion. There was always potential for MOTU to produce a better show like we got with Thundercats and it's a shame we didn't get it sooner. As a kid, Thundercats was my preference because to me, it was a better show and way more entertaining. It would have been good to see that with the MOTU characters back then. I like Ghostbusters and I love TMNT but Thundercats will always be my favourite 80's cartoon. I just found it the most interesting and I liked that the main villain was actually a bit scary, at least at first. Seeing Mumm-Ra bungle it all the time took away from his menace but it was still fun to watch. In my experience, everything that I've ever liked has sold well, with the possible exception of 2011 Thundercats but to this day, I still don't know exactly why and if there may have been a way to make it sell better than it did through better promotion. Perhaps prioritising the 2011 show and aiming the toys at kids was the mistake. I think the popularity for the original show was there but perhaps not for the new show. MOTU 2002 is another example of that. I liked the 2011 show but not as much as the original. I have no idea why Thundercats Roar! was made, it takes a truly special individual and a worrying level of insanity to produce that mess.
I'm also a big fan of the Bret vs Austin I quit match at WM 13. I also liked the double turn at the end of it as well. It was by far my favourite match from WM 13. WWF was really good in 1997. I also heard that on one of Austin's podcasts and he's right, the 2001 heel turn didn't work.
I can imagine more people liking Anakin in the Clone Wars as it seems like Hayden Christensen was a bit of an acquired taste.
Yes, we probably should start a new thread. Still, there was always a good chance that a lot of the Thundercats fanbase would like a lot of other cool stuff too and would most likely remember a lot of the 80's and 90's kids' shows. It baffles me that some who are into their 80's and 90's cartoons don't actually recognise what a gem Thundercats actually is. I guess it's something that only the Thundercats fanbase sees but I think it's underrated.