Wave 5 speculation

"krazycp, post: 131940, member: 24991" said:

Maybe they will show up with the Thundertank.

Nope. Fans would throw a hissy fit if any figure appeared with the tank. Even though lots are asking for Snarf, the uproar will be terrible because A) I can’t afford a $450 Snarf, B) You’re forcing me to buy the tank to keep my collection of figures complete, C) Even if you release a different Snarf separately my OCD will kick in and I will attack you publicly and call you out for being jerks, D) Need I go on?
In all seriousness, if a Snarf Egbert or the likes was released, it would be cool. Not everyone collecting this line is too bothered by B-listers. But we got that cool extra accessory of the Thundrillium which I think is very clever!!! I never would’ve expected that. Smart move!!

"Alex Jones, post: 131939, member: 27647" said:

They do. I guess the mystery around K/K is do they do them as a 2-pack as part of a wave or do they do that 2-pack separately? Does it become a 3-Pack with Snarf? A 4-pack with Snarf and Snarfer? Personally, I'm not after K/K but would have been if I hadn't bought the Mattel versions. Despite getting Both Lion-Os and Mumm-Ras, I don't really want an extra K/K. Mumm-Ra and Lion-O are the main characters, I liked the new versions of them and their new accessories. I also got an extra Jackalman to be a henchman but I like the K/K set from Mattel, especially with that diorama they included. I can see the reasoning behind Super7 waiting to to do them because I think at this stage, fans would be more stoked to see Bengali next. That's just my opinion though and if they do one cat, they may want to do a goodie who isn't a cat, like an ally or something. Also, I don't see them doing Kit and Kat as separate figures because that would not be very good value and it takes up 2 slots in a wave. It wouldn't be so bad if one came with Snarf or Snarfer or a Berbil but it would still be underwhelming for them to take up 2 slots. Then again, maybe they will do that and that's why they're waiting because if everyone's favourite hero characters have already been made, that would free up the slots for them in a later wave.

The thing with K&K is that the only biggest difference with Kat would be his corrected sleeve. That is my BIGGEST dislike of the figure. (Talking about differences, with Panthro’s pants I can now justify it being a lighter colour by making that version the Spitting Image “faker” Panthro. I could still replace it but I don’t think I will. I kinda like it!) Back to Kat, there’s no excuse to justify his wrong sleeve colour so for me that is one of my biggest excitements for this figure. Kit is perfect as is. So for those reasons splitting them would be a riskier move sales wise. Those who have K&K will buy Kat only to replace him and sell off the “wrong” version. They won’t rebuy Kit then. Only those who have neither will buy them both. When Kat appeared in the W2 promo shots I incorrectly assumed he’s come with Tygra. That would mean you wouldn’t have to buy him separately. It would also have meant that Kit would come with Cheetara. So win-win there. Everyone would buy T&C because of their core team status. This was not the case eventually.
Will the twind be an exclusive? I would think so. But one of those everyone could buy. But what do they add to it so the price isn’t $90? Extra heads? More Treasure of Thundera? The actual chest? Alternate light up eyes for the whole team? Snarf it Snarfer joining them would be a bad move. The same arguments over the tank would apply here. Why rebuy K&K etc... If a 2-pack is released as an exclusive it frees up the normal waves. But if they were released separately then I bet S7 has a very good plan to make it worth every cent.

I wonder whether Super7 will be obliged to use the same old factory for Kit and Kat as they were for Wave 1, or if the molds will have to be remade at the new factory. That logistical hiccup could explain why it’s taking so long for them to make an appearance...

"thezaxfactor, post: 131947, member: 362" said:

I wonder whether Super7 will be obliged to use the same old factory for Kit and Kat as they were for Wave 1, or if the molds will have to be remade at the new factory. That logistical hiccup could explain why it’s taking so long for them to make an appearance...

Perhaps, yes.

"Sebastiaan, post: 131944, member: 25673" said:

Nope. Fans would throw a hissy fit if any figure appeared with the tank. Even though lots are asking for Snarf, the uproar will be terrible because A) I can’t afford a $450 Snarf, B) You’re forcing me to buy the tank to keep my collection of figures complete, C) Even if you release a different Snarf separately my OCD will kick in and I will attack you publicly and call you out for being jerks, D) Need I go on?
In all seriousness, if a Snarf Egbert or the likes was released, it would be cool. Not everyone collecting this line is too bothered by B-listers. But we got that cool extra accessory of the Thundrillium which I think is very clever!!! I never would’ve expected that. Smart move!!

Exactly

"Sebastiaan, post: 131946, member: 25673" said:

The thing with K&K is that the only biggest difference with Kat would be his corrected sleeve. That is my BIGGEST dislike of the figure. (Talking about differences, with Panthro’s pants I can now justify it being a lighter colour by making that version the Spitting Image “faker” Panthro. I could still replace it but I don’t think I will. I kinda like it!) Back to Kat, there’s no excuse to justify his wrong sleeve colour so for me that is one of my biggest excitements for this figure. Kit is perfect as is. So for those reasons splitting them would be a riskier move sales wise. Those who have K&K will buy Kat only to replace him and sell off the “wrong” version. They won’t rebuy Kit then. Only those who have neither will buy them both. When Kat appeared in the W2 promo shots I incorrectly assumed he’s come with Tygra. That would mean you wouldn’t have to buy him separately. It would also have meant that Kit would come with Cheetara. So win-win there. Everyone would buy T&C because of their core team status. This was not the case eventually.
Will the twind be an exclusive? I would think so. But one of those everyone could buy. But what do they add to it so the price isn’t $90? Extra heads? More Treasure of Thundera? The actual chest? Alternate light up eyes for the whole team? Snarf it Snarfer joining them would be a bad move. The same arguments over the tank would apply here. Why rebuy K&K etc... If a 2-pack is released as an exclusive it frees up the normal waves. But if they were released separately then I bet S7 has a very good plan to make it worth every cent.

If an incorrect version of a figure is being used as a different character then the mistakes don't matter. They actually work because you can differentiate more easily. The Panthro clone doesn't need to be exactly the same as regular Panthro, subtle differences are actually a good thing in that instance. Same with Jackalman, if you want the Super7 version to be a henchman then a minor difference or mistake just reinforces the idea that it's a separate character so it isn't necessarily a bad thing if you already have the Mattel version. Yes, I know that Kat's sleeve bothered a lot of people. It didn't bother me but it was pretty poor on Mattel's part. I agree that including Snarf with K&K would be a bad move. Not everyone wants to re-buy K&K but they may want Snarf. I saw it as a possibility but I hope it doesn't happen because I would actually like to have an Ultimates Snarf. Like I said before, selling K&K separately wouldn't be very good value-wise and like you said, people may buy Kat and not Kit due to the correction. Maybe they didn't come with Tygra and Cheetara so that people won't have duplicates unless they actually want them. I agree that selling them in addition to the waves is a good idea because it frees up spaces for more exciting new reveals/releases. If K&K hadn't already been made by Mattel, including Snarf with them may have made sense but if it happens, it may annoy some fans. It makes me wonder how Super7 will go about releasing Snarf. Maybe Snarf, Snarfer and some Berbils sold together as a set might be good. It wouldn't surprise me if they made a young Lion-O with Snarf but how many people would want a young Lion-O? I think some fans would but the prospect doesn't really excite me whereas Berbils would be fun to have, so I say bring on the Ro-Bears.

"Alex Jones, post: 131951, member: 27647" said:

I agree that including Snarf with K&K would be a bad move. Not everyone wants to re-buy K&K but they may want Snarf. I saw it as a possibility but I hope it doesn't happen because I would actually like to have an Ultimates Snarf. I agree that selling them in addition to the waves is a good idea because it frees up spaces for more exciting new reveals/releases. If K&K hadn't already been made by Mattel, including Snarf with them may have made sense but if it happens, it may annoy some fans. It makes me wonder how Super7 will go about releasing Snarf. Maybe Snarf, Snarfer and some Berbils sold together as a set might be good.

Better that way. In order for completists to get Snarf, they need to buy the Berbils even if they don't like them enough, rather than skip the Berbils and half wouldn't buy like me that skipped 3 of 4 Wave 4 figures.

"heero_yuy2, post: 131953, member: 27781" said:

Better that way. In order for completists to get Snarf, they need to buy the Berbils even if they don't like them enough, rather than skip the Berbils and half wouldn't buy like me that skipped 3 of 4 Wave 4 figures.

If it happened, I would hope that this set would also be released separately from the waves. Sets like this could be a sub-line called 'Companions' like LJN did. Adding the Berbils would just add value to the item. No one could justify charging a price comparable to a 6/7 inch figure for Snarf on his own. I think some may have skipped the Berbils like you said, unless they come with Snarf. I think fans would happy to have them even if they weren't originally planning on buying them. I may have skipped them myself. I like them but they're not essential to me, more like a bonus. They seem like the best option in regards to what could come in a set with Snarf and maybe Snarfer. I'd be happy with that. Super7 could actually do a set of all the Snarf characters but I personally would prefer to have some Berbils than all of the Snarfs. It would be more interesting to mix it up a bit. Snarf may be a good selling point for the Berbils. To me, the Berbils are nice to have but not necessarily figures that all fans will go out of their way to get. Berbils could still be a set that is released separately from the Snarfs but I'm not so sure they will sell as well as the main figures.
I'm guessing that it was Monkian who you got from wave 4.

"Alex Jones, post: 131955, member: 27647" said:

I'm guessing that it was Monkian who you got from wave 4.

Once you go Mutant, you never go reluctant.

Bengali (with hammer of Thundera, alternate hands, alternate head, broken sword of omens)
Vultureman (with wolfrat, laser pistol, super power potion, and alternate hands)
Mandora (with laser pistol, boomerang, alternate hands)
Driller (with crossbow, bag of diamonds, stand, and LJN 3 piece drill stand)

"krazycp, post: 131964, member: 24991" said:

Bengali (with hammer of Thundera, alternate hands, alternate head, broken sword of omens)
Vultureman (with wolfrat, laser pistol, super power potion, and alternate hands)
Mandora (with laser pistol, boomerang, alternate hands)
Driller (with crossbow, bag of diamonds, stand, and LJN 3 piece drill stand)

I could actually see this happening.

"Alex Jones, post: 131965, member: 27647" said:

I could actually see this happening.

Thanks. I was thinking it through last night and this seemed very likely. I figure Wave 6 will wrap up Thundercats and Mutants and we will start getting Lunataks in Waves 7-12, with one per wave. As others have mentioned, Kit/Kat are hard to predict since they may be made at the old factory or require changes to be made at the Super 7 factory, so who knows when we will see them. We should find out in the next couple months how close I got to predicting Wave 5.

"krazycp, post: 131967, member: 24991" said:

Thanks. I was thinking it through last night and this seemed very likely. I figure Wave 6 will wrap up Thundercats and Mutants and we will start getting Lunataks in Waves 7-12, with one per wave. As others have mentioned, Kit/Kat are hard to predict since they may be made at the old factory or require changes to be made at the Super 7 factory, so who knows when we will see them. We should find out in the next couple months how close I got to predicting Wave 5.

I had suspected Mandora and Driller for a while because I think they would be quite easy to make and Mandora is a character we've never had. It also sounds like a lot of fans want a Mandora. Personally, it doesn't excite me but I'm sure it will excite other fans. I think an Ultimates Mongor and Hachiman would feel like higher value items as they would probably be bigger and in my opinion, they have superior character designs. I think those 2 would make for more exciting figures. Having said that, Mandora and Driller seem inevitable, even if they're not in the next wave. I think you're right about the mutants. I think wave 5 and 6 will give us the last 2, then we'll get either a Lunatak and a Berzerker or 1 of those 2 with a one-off character or perhaps a character who just appeared a few times. That's just villains though. The cats are nearly done so it would have to be allies and friends after that. I think Hachiman is highly likely in the next few waves. My concern is how long they will take to do Mongor because there are so many villains to do, including 2 more teams.

By all indications the line is doing well. I think that means we will continue to see more randomness than we might have thought at first, which to me is extremely exciting. I don't want this line to be too predictable. The current format lends itself well to conversation and hype which will help drive it forward.

"Cheetoro, post: 132000, member: 26134" said:

By all indications the line is doing well. I think that means we will continue to see more randomness than we might have thought at first, which to me is extremely exciting. I don't want this line to be too predictable. The current format lends itself well to conversation and hype which will help drive it forward.

Yes, I don't know if anyone has predicted the waves correctly yet. There always seems to be something unexpected. I think you're right, the line must be doing well because I doubt that they would attempt a Thundertank otherwise. One character who I think has an outside chance of being made soon who was never made before is The Demolisher.