Thread from LiarDice Films...

42 REPLIES · 226 VIEWS · STARTED JUN 29, 2011
#1
Hi gang,

This guy needs punitive action taking against him - however, I didn't want to do anything off my own bat without getting opinions first.

http://www.thundercatslair.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7045

My own opinion is delete the thread and issue him with an infraction and tell him if there's a repeat then we will ban him. However, some of you guys may feel this is a bit soft! ;)

Well done to our superb moderating team for jumping on this straight away - however, I feel a further step needs taking.

Take care... :)
#2
Yeah, I saw it and moved it. I sent a PM to blackiecats about it. I don't see anything in the rules that actually relate to this kind of issue, so I hesitate to lock it. But it does need to be addressed in my opinion.

I have no problem with your suggestion He-Fan. Thread deletion and infraction sounds like a good step if this is his first offense.
#3
Chris here...

"mcss aerocoupe, post: 43876" said:

Yeah, I saw it and moved it. I sent a PM to blackiecats about it. I don't see anything in the rules that actually relate to this kind of issue, so I hesitate to lock it. But it does need to be addressed in my opinion.

I have no problem with your suggestion He-Fan. Thread deletion and infraction sounds like a good step if this is his first offense.


Your work with this has been excellent, well done! :)

The only reason I hesitate with an outright ban is because this is, to my knowledge, his first step over the line. My own opinion of LiarDice is that he's a, shall we say, slightly unique character, I really shouldn't say any more than that where I can be quoted but suffice to say I don't rate him. I'd love to just press the "Ban User" button but don't want my negative feelings about him to cloud my judgement.

He has, however, breached forum rules by attacking (albeit indirectly) this site's admin team and has tried to provoke a controversial thread. So some sort of punitive action is necessary.

Take care... :)
#4
Understood.

Although "Has this place just beome a huge dicatated, censored sell out of a stale forum?" does not sound like an indirect attack to me. That certainly sounds like a direct jab.

I know I should probably delete the thread, but I'd like a 3rd opinion first.

Edit: he posted again, so I went ahead and deleted. Sorry if I made a misstep, but I felt it was the best option.

In case you can't see his last post:

"FREE SPEECH!! this forum is not a Nazi camp. It cant be censored and moving threads is pathetic. Jordan is only paying a fee because he is worried he wont sell any of the items he is charging outrages prices for!

TITLE OF THIS TOPIC THREAD
General Discussion Speak your mind about almost anything!

TCL owners, partners whatever. YOU are sell outs to money makinging used car dealers. You should all be ashamed of yourselves, as this site has become a giant SEO marketing tool of which no one cares about the true grass roots of The Thundercats series."
#5
Chris here...

I've just issued him with an infraction - however, this last post sounds more worthy of an outright ban!

Take care... :)
Merged Post:
PM received:

LiarDiceFilms said:

No profanity, swearing or any other behaviours of the sort was used. Dont talk to me like im a child.
Or i will openly post the TRUTH about Jordan and his HH auction and the manner in which he spoke to myself and other forum members.
Youre meant to be here to protect members and not defend the people or profit from this site.
This is a fan forum not a primary school.


Wants banning, simple as.

Take care... :)
#6
Did you undelete the thread, or did he do it somehow?
#7
Chris here...

"mcss aerocoupe, post: 43890" said:

Did you undelete the thread, or did he do it somehow?


I think Neil did it so that he could reply to it (which is what he's doing now)...? :)

Take care... :)
#8
Ok. I didn't think users could undelete a thread, but wanted to be sure.
#9
Another PM

Liar Dice Tosser said:

One more thing. Please remove the photograph of the Red Eye proto figure from the proto toy section and also the Quick Jaws video, as these are the propertly of LiarDice Films and i no longer give permission for them to be used on this webasite. Many thanks


LMK where these are, guys, and I'll delete them straight away! ;)

Take care... :)
#11
Chris here...

"mcss aerocoupe, post: 43894" said:

http://www.thundercatslair.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/RedEye2.jpg
http://www.thundercatslair.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/RedEye1.jpg

QuickJaws video is a link to YouTube on this page: http://www.thundercatslair.org/toys-main/ljn/prototypes/quick-jaws/


Thanks for that, just attended to those now - ironic that he urges me not to treat him like a child and then behaves in the most childish way possible! ;)

Take care... :)
#12
FYI: I just deleted a post by LiarDice in the Mini-Feliner and Fistpounder thread. Jordan did alert me to it...

Post was:

Jordan stop using this site as an advert for your rigged auction.
You emailed me asking me what they were when you first received the pics. You cant broker toys if you know nothing about them.
#13
Thanks guys for your quick actions :thumbsup:

I've replied to the thread and restored it. I want to show ours members we have nothing to hide and if they have any worries to contact us.

Liardice Films is banned. He overstepped the mark I'm afraid. His threads were not to get details, but rather to cause a disturbance on the forums and a personal attack on Jordan because Jordan won't sell Wayne a certain prototype outside of the upcoming auction. He's basically thrown his dummy out the pram and dragged BBTS into it.

I just don't trust him not to start mouthing off again, so he had to go. That coupled with the negative feedback he got over the custom figure he was meant to be buying.
#14
No problem. I did try to calm the situation down by reminding him that advertisements means money to pay for the site. I don't think my explanation warranted that rant, but my thoughts may not have come across the way I meant. If that's the case I am sorry.

Let's hope the rest of the day is much calmer.
#15

"mcss aerocoupe, post: 43899" said:

No problem. I did try to calm the situation down by reminding him that advertisements means money to pay for the site. I don't think my explanation warranted that rant, but my thoughts may not have come across the way I meant. If that's the case I am sorry.

Let's hope the rest of the day is much calmer.


You handled the situation fine and took the correct cause of action :)
#16
Chris here...

"mcss aerocoupe, post: 43899" said:

No problem. I did try to calm the situation down by reminding him that advertisements means money to pay for the site. I don't think my explanation warranted that rant, but my thoughts may not have come across the way I meant. If that's the case I am sorry.


I think your response was fine - at the end of the day I think the guy's just a bit of a scumbag, it's a shame to lose those two photos and the video from the Toy Section but to be honest they're no great loss in the grand scheme of things! ;)

Neil, thanks for taking the ban decision, I didn't want to do it off my own bat as he got under my skin but FWIW, I think it's the right decision! ;)

Take care... :)
#17
I've asked Jordan about those two images, as they could be pics Jordan took. If so, then they are fair game to use.
#18
Thanks guys. I was worried I wasn't doing enough to put out the flames, but at the same time worried I was over stepping my duty/authority.
#19

"blackiecats, post: 43903" said:

I've asked Jordan about those two images, as they could be pics Jordan took. If so, then they are fair game to use.

Just got in on this thread...those are pics Jordan took...the video im not so sure about. That video should stay up since that was something that was sent to me and i dont give a damn if he doesnt want it up, it was sent to me with no conditions attached

If there is a decision i feel strongly about is leaving that material up...he has no proof they are his anyways
#20
I've got a bad feeling about all of this. There seems to be 3 different people claiming to have a Quick Jaws in their possession. And 2 people claiming to have a Red Eye prototype.

I think this is the same video, still on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMpeBNIHZIc
Uploaded by http://www.youtube.com/user/rodzm"" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rodzm on Jan 29, 2011
ThunderCats Quick Jaws Prototype video courtesy of forum member at www.thundercatslair.org
License:

Standard YouTube License

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