Tygra Fan Thread

Under 2011, I would change "Homeword" to just "Home" and make it...

Home: Kingdom of Thundera, Third Earth

Under 2011, I would change his family to say...

Family: Adoptive Family - Father Claudus, Younger Brother Lion-O

Would you not want to include "fighting" as one of his abilities?

Ok, changes made. I didn't include "fighter" as every TC was a fighter and it wouldn't be distintive of him... or would it?

Maybe you should also separate out the quotes between os and ns?

I was alerady thinking of that ;)

"Tygra_Rules, post: 50835" said:

Ok, changes made. I didn't include "fighter" as every TC was a fighter and it wouldn't be distintive of him... or would it?

A fighter is the only thing new Tygra, and all the other Thundercats, seem to be so far. To me, this does suggest that Tygra was adopted very young, and never knew his parents, and he was raised as a fighter in a royal household. So far in his speech, we have no idea of what his interests outside of delivering a left hook and a round house right might be. I'd love to see him cast off fisticuffs for something spiritual as a true priest, but I doubt whether gods, or the subject of religion, will ever be invoked in this series given American puritanism. So far, the actions of the principles are like a D&D game with only one character class: Fighter.

Someone suggested illusionist, and that would indicate a magical component and intelligence, another good choice. Perhaps along the way, in a quest for power, Tygra will stumble upon magicks, and face the test of Self. If he succeeds, he becomes the new Vizier, a real power behind the throne. But he has to get past that first born thing, as all first borns must when dethroned by siblings.

Just thinking out loud here as I listen to the jack hammers tearing up my street to put in a new water main, and wishing I could think them out of existence.

MGP

I like the idea of Tygra turning into an illusionist (he was that in teh OS after all), but I also think that if that was destined to happen, Jaga would have sensed it and trained him. JMO.

"Nine Tiger, post: 50884" said:

I'd love to see him cast off fisticuffs for something spiritual as a true priest, but I doubt whether gods, or the subject of religion, will ever be invoked in this series given American puritanism.

I think it has to do with the age that is the target audience.

God, is a pretty heavy topic for adults much less kids.

The Last Air Bender did touch upon some of that stuff and they did a pretty good job. Kept it very light though.

As for any character I could see the ground work for that being laid for the warrior/priest? It would be Lynx-o. Just by the way they're implying he's the anti-Grune and how Grune himself seemed to hold Lynx-o in such contempt.

Now I could see them setting Lynx-o up as a possible mentor for Tygra for the very same reason stated above.

"Nine Tiger, post: 50884" said:

Tygra will stumble upon magicks, and face the test of Self. If he succeeds, he becomes the new Vizier, a real power behind the throne.

The fact they went to the trouble to make Cheetara a cleric and magic user in this series means they plan, IF they do tackle Tygra's powers they will be psychic in nature and not magical. Not only does that give them too worlds magic and psychic/mind powers per say to explore. It also gives them lots of avenues they can explore with BOTH Tygra and Bengali.

I really never saw anything 'magical' about Tygra's mind powers. Just like I never saw anything magcial about what Lynx-o could do either.

The ones I always saw as the possible budding magic users were Lion-o and Cheetara. In the OS Lion-o you knew magic ran in his family because we saw Claudus use it without the sword. You got the impression that's why Lion-o could do so much with the sword. And Cheetara was a possible question mark with her 6th sense.

I can say that as a Christian, it doesn't bother me when they create a mythology in fantasy fiction. Even JRR Tolkien who was a Christian created a mythology for his stories.

We are already seeing bits of a mythology in this series. We have a group of clerics, my understanding of the word is that it is a religious term. You have Jaga who leads them, I suppose he may carry the title of priest but I don't really know what his title of. And at the service they held for Claudus, they believe in a life after death and that Claudus had a soul or spirit that moved on either to another realm of existence or through reincarnation, that hasn't been told.

I'm not sure of Tygra becoming a priest unless perhaps his ability to become invisible was learned from Jaga and if he once trained under Jaga to succeed him one day, I could perhaps see him pursuing that again. I'm not fond of him becoming an illusionist because that would seem to me like an un-noble profession, I tend to think of illusionists along the same lines as circus performers and with Tygra being a prince, I think he should have a noble profession. :)

But remember he has a non-noble origin from hich he could have inherited the power of illusionism.

Wouldn't that be great? If after being adopted and raised as a prince, his very own special power stays as the hallmark of his "plebeian" origins?

"CodeofThundera, post: 50915" said:

I'm not sure of Tygra becoming a priest unless perhaps his ability to become invisible was learned from Jaga and if he once trained under Jaga to succeed him one day, I could perhaps see him pursuing that again.

Why does everyone assume Tygra isn't an architect or doesn't have an interest in the subject that won't come out in the series later?

Maybe I should rephrase that and ask why does everyone assume Tygra is uneducated because he IS a soldier?

The backbone of warfare IS engineering, logicstics, and in the case of seige warfare-- architecture. With seige warfare you gotta understand how a wall or a city is built to either breach it, destroy it, or build defenses for it. Tygra as a prince of Thundera was trained to do exactly that.

Actually look at the background buildings of Thundera. Do you think these are simple noncomplicated stuctures that people with NO math or engineering skills built?

"Tygra_Rules, post: 50946" said:

But remember he has a non-noble origin from hich he could have inherited the power of illusionism.

Wouldn't that be great? If after being adopted and raised as a prince, his very own special power stays as the hallmark of his "plebeian" origins?

As far as I'm aware, we don't know what his origin is. He might have been born into a noble family for all we know. But regardless of what he was born into, he was adopted by the king, raised as his own son, as a prince, raised with that kind of life and sense of nobility. That is his life now.

I will look forward to discovering how he got his ability. :D

"HillsHollow, post: 50949" said:

Why does everyone assume Tygra isn't an architect or doesn't have an interest in the subject that won't come out in the series later?

Maybe, but based on what we've seen so far, I wouldn't think so. Looks like his focus was on military and fighting and part of his architecture skills in the OS was based on his affluence with technology, something he lacks now.

"HillsHollow, post: 50949" said:

Maybe I should rephrase that and ask why does everyone assume Tygra is uneducated because he IS a soldier?

I never assumed that. I think Tygra is very much an educated individual. I'm sure that both he and Lion-O received the very best education.

"HillsHollow, post: 50949" said:

The backbone of warfare IS engineering, logicstics, and in the case of seige warfare-- architecture. With seige warfare you gotta understand how a wall or a city is built to either breach it, destroy it, or build defenses for it. Tygra as a prince of Thundera was trained to do exactly that.

That would be good, if the lizards had cities or walls that needed to be breached. :eek:

"HillsHollow, post: 50949" said:

Why does everyone assume Tygra isn't an architect or doesn't have an interest in the subject that won't come out in the series later?

Maybe I should rephrase that and ask why does everyone assume Tygra is uneducated because he IS a soldier?

The backbone of warfare IS engineering, logicstics, and in the case of seige warfare-- architecture. With seige warfare you gotta understand how a wall or a city is built to either breach it, destroy it, or build defenses for it. Tygra as a prince of Thundera was trained to do exactly that.

Actually look at the background buildings of Thundera. Do you think these are simple noncomplicated stuctures that people with NO math or engineering skills built?

You are right, and somehow I've thought the same before.

In "Song of the Petalars", Tygra said sad "maybe I read the map wrong" or something like that, implying they gave him the map to take care of it. That would only have sense if Tygra has at least some basic knowledge in strategies and map reading. So he must know some stuff that could be related with Architecture.

On the other hand, producers keep saying he was the lamest and all that nonsense yada yada, and that they thought he needed a twist and all that other yada yada, so I think they intentionally want to leave the architect thing behind because they might think that's part of what made him lame (to their eyes) in the OS. Hope I'm wrong and they turn him intot eh architect TC after all.

"CodeofThundera, post: 50951" said:

That would be good, if the lizards had cities or walls that needed to be breached. :eek:

Hey you never know.

And I appologize I wasn't trying to imply it was anything you posted.

It was more the tone of the conversation.

Just to point Egyptians, Greeks, Romans and Aztecs didn't have modern tech and still managed to build some of the wonders of the world. Take a look at the Tag Mahal, the Great Wall, and the Blue Mosque in Turkey. All of them would be pretty close examples of what we've seen of Thunderian sytles of architecture and was built with roughly the same level of technology.

It would be cool to see MUMRA-NA in the show too..(just saying i dont hear to many people mention her lol)

"CodeofThundera, post: 50951" said:

As far as I'm aware, we don't know what his origin is. He might have been born into a noble family for all we know. But regardless of what he was born into, he was adopted by the king, raised as his own son, as a prince, raised with that kind of life and sense of nobility. That is his life now.

That is an interesting, nice idea I haven't thought of it before. If he was a son of a noble, h would have been in that circle all his life.

Maybe his father was Lion-o's godfather?

I finally got to put a banner in the first post!!! (Been trying to get it done since Saturday...)

Nice banner! I especially like the artist rendition on the left. I'm guessing that's the image they'll use on the Tygra toys.

One question on one of your OS quotes...
"Now you see me, now you don't!"

In the OS, wasn't it, "Now you don't see me, now you do!"

"CodeofThundera, post: 50967" said:

Nice banner! I especially like the artist rendition on the left. I'm guessing that's the image they'll use on the Tygra toys.

One question on one of your OS quotes...
"Now you see me, now you don't!"

In the OS, wasn't it, "Now you don't see me, now you do!"

He said it that way only in Exodus, but from then on, he used to say "Now you see me, now you don't" before wrapping his whip around him. Like in most of the first season's eps and some of the 2nd one like "Telepathy Beam", "Mumm-Ra Lives" part 5, "Mossland Monster", etc.

"Tygra_Rules, post: 50782" said:

In the OS episode "The Trial of Mind Power", when Snarf and the twins were asking about Tygra's powers, Panthro said something like "the Tygra clan in Thundera has special mind powers"; he didn't say "Tygra's clan".

good memory! Panthro does say something similar. A good quote for new tygra "When it comes to everything but the crown, you will always be in second place!"

That is a good quote. It'll be nice to book end it with another quote when Tygra finally admits that his brother is worthy of the title.

Quote added :cool:

I want to add the dialogue where Lion-o says something like "You're just too perfect, right Tygra?" and he replies "Thanks Lion-o", but don't remember how it goes exactly.