ROCKS 11A: Spiral Zone Establishing Episodes

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#1
WELCOME EVERYBODY TO THE FIRST DISCUSSION IN THE ELEVENTH STRAND OF "R.O.C.K.S." - REWATCHING OLD CLASSIC KIDS SHOWS!
A big thanks to everyone that are joining us through all of this. It’s going to be an enjoyable ride!

This set of threads will focus on an obscure 80s cartoon, "Spiral Zone". Don't worry if you haven't heard of it, I only saw two episodes of it back in the day.

We're starting, as usual, with the establishing episodes, although rather bizarrely, most of what could be termed the "establishing episodes" were in the middle of the season, when the new characters were introduced. And the series pilot, "Mission Into Evil", was actually the fourth episode aired. Just to be confusing!

Also, to assist further, one episode from very late in the series will be included in the "establishing episodes" simply because it is the only one that shows the initial attack.

Anyway, the sum total is five establishing episodes, instead of the usual three:

- Mission Into Evil (pilot)
- The Last One Picked
- So Shall Ye Reaper
- Bandit And The Smokies
- Oversight

Just a friendly reminder to everyone that, whilst fans are obviously welcome to passionately discuss and give their views on these episodes, please remember to keep things on a friendly footing and respect your fellow posters.
Also, please do not post where or how to find the full episode online. And do not post asking others to PM it to you. You are however allowed to watch the show in whatever manner you want.
#2
OK, if nobody else is going to say anything, I've just watched these episodes myself.

It's quite a strange show really. The only reason I've ever heard of it is because I saw two episodes when on holiday abroad. I never saw it here in England. I watched the entire series online for the first time about 5yrs ago. And I've only seen about half of it more than once.

The premise is quite dark for an 80s show, and it has been suggested that it would have done better in this day and age than back then. It would also have done better if the production company had made a proper effort. They actually couldn't be bothered for the last nine episodes they made, which is why episodes 57-62 (in production order, not air date order) feature a small amount of new footage with flashbacks filling up about 3/4 of the time, and episodes 63-65 (in either order) consist entirely of old animation with new dialogue.

The biggest problem is that it's hard telling the characters apart when they have their helmets on. OK, so it's a military group, and they have uniforms, but they could have done more to make them distinct from one another. I'm also not a fan of the vehicles - motor-unicycles for the Zone Riders? Come on, that's just silly. The Black Widows' Sledgehammer tanks, and their mighty Bullwhip are a little better, but still leave their drivers very open to attack. Still, if you can stomach all the conceptual problems, there are some good episodes. And the characters are likeable enough for the most part. OK, so "Dirk Courage" is a silly name, like something a 40s-50s movie star would give himself to sound more macho (Rock Hudson being the best example - a name so macho it makes you think if he's over-compensating for something!), but he's a good responsible commanding officer. Tank and Max have some decent odd-couple episodes. Dr Lawrence in particular is rather like Q in the Bond films. And Overlord is actually a very effective villain - he has taken over half the world after all, and there are episodes where he technically wins.

As for the establishing set:

Mission Into Evil
This was the series' pilot, although it was aired 4th. It's a fairly straightforward episode really, a simple mission, with lots of explanatory dialogue. In a way it still feels like there should have been another episode before it. Imagine Thundercats starting with "The Unholy Alliance". Actually, there is a bit of explanation of what happened before, which surfaces in "Oversight", which is why I added it to the list of establishing episodes despite it being one of the flashback shows. Still, it showcases who the characters are, and we learn the basics of what makes them tick. Even if Overlord's motives are not explained. There is an episode in which it is revealed that Overlord is doing this to prevent mankind from destroying itself in wars, and so on that level, you can understand his ideology, even if you don't approve of his methods.

The Last One Picked
Midway through the series, they introduced a couple of new characters on each side. First off, we get two new Zone Riders. In the earlier episodes, Courage was the show's main pilot, but from this point on, that duty devolves almost entirely to Ned, who is basically Crocodile Dundee. You can just picture him saying, "that's not a knife - THAT'S a knife!" - except a couple of moments in this episode where Frank Welker is struggling with the Australian accent and sounds more Liverpudlian than anything else. Which is weird. I can understand someone trying for Aussie and sounding London, but Liverpool? Oh well, it was only this episode. Franklin is less likeable, and I never did warm to him. In a normal cartoon, he'd be Dr Lawrence's assistant, occasionally getting to go out on a mission, but here, him becoming a permanent Zone Rider is a little cliched.

So Shall Ye Reaper
And after the two new Zone Riders, it's time to add to the ranks of the Black Widows! These episodes are a little more interesting. Reaper plotting against Overlord is a nice twist. Normally it would be the second-in-command, which in this case is Bandit, but Bandit is actually one of Overlord's more loyal henchmen (there is an episode where Bandit assumes command, leaving Overlord as the good guys' prisoner, but it was a spur of the moment tactical decision). Indeed, Bandit says to Overlord that new Black Widow Crook is not to be trusted, and Overlord cleverly makes the point of saying that Bandit should watch his own back in that direction as well. After all, before you can take out the no1, you have to get past the no2. As for the heroes' blowing the dam at the end with the bouncing bomb, that was an actual operation in World War II, the famous Dambusters mission. Actually, there's a few other episodes that have more than a passing nod to classic war movies. There's one that is pretty much an exact retelling of "The Guns Of Navarone", and another that reminds me of "Where Eagles Dare".

Bandit And The Smokies
And with Crook established, one more new baddie to even the ranks out (in terms of actual main combatants - obviously we have General McFarland and Dr Lawrence on the side of the heroes as well). After the clever, cunning and crafty Crook was introduced before, now we have Rawmeat, whose strength is quite literally that - brute strength. Actually, in a slight goof, this episode was originally aired after one in which the character Rawmeat was already established (and which is on my list of highlights). But hey, continuity points, you know me . . . this episode too has a fairly straightforward plot, but the pace is decent enough. They possibly didn't make enough of Crook's tampering with the Bullwhip vehicle as they might have done, but I guess the point of this one was to introduce Rawmeat more than anything else.

Oversight
One of the flashback episodes from the end of the series. Most of these flashback episodes were pretty dodgy, just excuses to save money by reusing old sequences, and just hanging enough dialogue around them to introduce them. In one case it's reminiscences at a party, in another they're being interviewed by a reporter, in another Courage is teaching a class of cadets about the Black Widows and so on. But this one is a little different. There's a point to what's going on. In the fight against Overlord, there have been a few things that have got blown up. It makes sense that Courage would have to account for it. Courtroom dramas are good for this sort of thing. There is a famous precedent in Star Trek, the only two-part original episode "The Menagerie" makes use of the originally unaired first pilot "The Cage", which featured an entirely different cast, and worked pretty well. So does this one, in all fairness. Also, this episode is the only one that actually shows us the initial attack by Overlord's forces and the creation of the spiral zone itself. That's why I have included it here in the list of "establishing episodes".
#3
Some interesting and enjoable episodes Liam. The concept of the show is indeed quite dark and I could imagine it working very well today as either an animated or live action series, Theme tune is a bit bland. Perhaps an instrumental piece would have worked a lot better. I think the biggest problems this show had were characters very bland, the character designs were to generic and similar to each other and their names not very ihspired. Same with the vehicles, they looked quite silly and out of place in the present day setting. Having said all that I still really liked these episodes, hard to pick a favourite, but maybe TThe Last One Picked. This is one most children and adults can relate to with not being picked and given a chance to show how brave, smart or athletic they are just like being the last one picked for the football team etc.
#4
Ah yes, I forgot to mention the theme tune - it's fine musically, but the lyrics are a bit naff.

"Earth's most powerful soldiers are Earth's last chance to fight the spiral zone . . ."

Come again? Who do we have to depend on to fight the baddies? Earth's MOST POWERFUL soldiers? OK, fair enough, we can breathe out now!

Yes, the concept of the show was fine, but it deserved more effort. Fettes Gray (writer of the pilot) was actually a pseudonym for Joe Straczynski, creator of Babylon 5. Apparently he didn't like the direction that they wanted to take the show. The main writer, Mark Edens, was familiar to me as co-writing the Defenders Of The Earth 5-part adventure "The Necklace Of Oros".

The footage of Overlord's initial attack was actually created as part of a short not-to-be-aired pilot, which I downloaded a few years back. It's just visuals an dialogue, no music or sound effects as I recall. It was only about 5min, and was just to show the network what they were proposing. It also includes Overlord's line from the title sequence, "surrender, or pay the consequences" - with the additional bit, "the choice is yours." One other thing about that mini-pilot is that it identified the Zone Riders by name and rank, but called Courage "Colonel" rather than "Commander". I wonder why they changed it to a naval rank instead of an army one, especially as all the other ranks are army. OK, so there's lieutenants in all the different military branches, but it certainly sounds like they're all army ones here.

Like Thundercats, Spiral Zone had a very small voice cast, and you can usually tell who was who:

Dan Gilvezan - Dirk Courage
Neil Ross - Overlord, Bandit, Tank
Frank Welker - Dr Lawrence, Razorback, Ned Tucker
Hal Rayle - Max, Franklin, Rawmeat
Denny Delk - Reaper, General McFarland
Michael Bell - Hiro, Crook*
Mona Marshall, Kat, Duchess Dire, all female voices

*Crook is the one voice I'm not certain on. I think it's Bell, but it might be Rayle, indeed he was my first thought when I first saw that episode. Can anyone be certain?

This is a rare occasion where the black character is voiced by a white actor - Max Jones, the second-in-command of the Zone Riders, is voiced by Hal Rayle, familiar to 80s cartoon enthusiasts as Arzon in Visionaries, Prince Kro-Tan in Defenders Of The Earth, and Shrapnel in Transformers.

So basically, I have come down very hard on the presentation of Spiral Zone. But there were some great episodes. Sigh . . . what might have been.
#5
SZ concept seems a bit too dark to appeal to 80's kids.
Then the toy issue comes into play. The action figures looked cool enough, but most of them looked far to similar too each other. They also seemed t be quite expensive compared to the other toys available. What with the numerous accessories and cloth uniforms I would imagine these would have done quite well in the UK as they are quite similar to Action Man. Action Man in the UK had some space themed figures whilst G.I. Joe in the US was more just military...hence the success of G.I. Joe A Real American Hero. Having said that it's kind of ironic considering some of the themes G.I. Joe would go on to include in the early 90's.
As for the vehicles, none of them we exceptionally designed or had the cool factor numerous other toylines had. I can't image the SZ vehicles were high up many children's want's lists above the Thundertank, TMNT van, A-team van, Ecto-1, Millennium falcon, Batmobile etc.
If the Spiral Zone figures had been 3.75" like G.I Hoe ARAH and some bigger and better designed vehicles, and the TV and toys shown in the UK I think it could have been a real success.

Liam I am looking forward to your picks of the series highlights.
#6
I've selected three episodes each from the two halves of the series. As for the "feature length" adventure, there's technically no multi-part episodes, but, introduction of new characters aside, there are two episodes (again one from each half of the series) that have a small touch of continuity. The former introduces a character who appears again in the latter, and the latter is a particularly interesting episode.

Or we could just watch those in the two weeks of highlights, go 4-4 instead of 3-3-2.

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