#21 FEB 11, 2007 · 19 yr ago
That's great Manny. :) Good job. ;)
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Complete comics available to view at TCL - yay or nay? (REVIVED OLD THREAD - PLEASE READ!) :)
#22 FEB 11, 2007 · 19 yr ago
Chris here...
First of all, great job MannyC for reviving this project - great to come on here and see so much new mileage for it! :)
I'm slightly pressed for time at this exact second, so please forgive the briefness of my comments here - I just wanted to get back to you guys ASAP! :)
First of all, putting the comics in Adobe Reader works great - however, the only problem I have so far is that as an exercise I have effortlessly been able to download the PDF file and save it to my hard drive, and then as a further exercise I e-mailed the file to myself! :) I would really like to find some way of protecting these from being able to be saved to people's hard drives - I see what MannyF was saying about password protection, and I'd definitely be in favour of this. Would that prevent people (even TCL Board members) from being able to download these and save them? :)
On the subject of us scanning them, I don't mind this at all in principle - my sole concern would be from a "political" perspective, i.e. Queen Lynxana and Purrsia have offered us the use of the scans that they've done, playing devil's advocate could it come over the wrong way if we then don't get back to them on this offer but just go off and start scanning the same material ourselves instead? I don't know what you guys think about that, it was just a thought that occured to me. :)
Other than those comments, great job guys! :)
Take care... :)
First of all, great job MannyC for reviving this project - great to come on here and see so much new mileage for it! :)
I'm slightly pressed for time at this exact second, so please forgive the briefness of my comments here - I just wanted to get back to you guys ASAP! :)
First of all, putting the comics in Adobe Reader works great - however, the only problem I have so far is that as an exercise I have effortlessly been able to download the PDF file and save it to my hard drive, and then as a further exercise I e-mailed the file to myself! :) I would really like to find some way of protecting these from being able to be saved to people's hard drives - I see what MannyF was saying about password protection, and I'd definitely be in favour of this. Would that prevent people (even TCL Board members) from being able to download these and save them? :)
On the subject of us scanning them, I don't mind this at all in principle - my sole concern would be from a "political" perspective, i.e. Queen Lynxana and Purrsia have offered us the use of the scans that they've done, playing devil's advocate could it come over the wrong way if we then don't get back to them on this offer but just go off and start scanning the same material ourselves instead? I don't know what you guys think about that, it was just a thought that occured to me. :)
Other than those comments, great job guys! :)
Take care... :)
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#23 FEB 11, 2007 · 19 yr ago
Hey, just figured I'd put in my two cents since I just now saw this thread.
1) On the subject of offered material. I can't speak for Queenie, but I don't care one way or the other. The offer from me is just an offer and I understand that sites may want to do their own scanning work so they can do the formatting, sizing and so on they wish. I'm cool with that.
I took Queenie up on her offer even though I too own all the US issues anyway because upon making this decision to host in full certain OOP items, I realized I'd have a butt-load of scanning to do, I don't have a whole crew working on my site like you all have, and frankly, I'm simply grateful for time-saved in that department.
However, I will be posting up all the UK issues I own (roughly about half of what is out there so far), the magazines, coloring books, and some other items...and I already have all the books I own up and most of the annuals (got one left to scan in, and I admit, some of the pages didn't fare well cuz it's darn hard to get a hard-cover book to lay flat in the kind of scanner I have and even page straightening efforts in photoshop could only do so much). Point is, if there's a hole in your collections and I have it posted up, the offer still stands for TCL to use it to make your collections more complete. Queenie and I sort of have a mutual agreement there, where we can share alike as long as due credit is given to the original scanner of the material. Whether you all want to offer me the same dibs in kind is up to you, but it's not required. Suit yourselves.
2) I'm afraid I do just have my scans sitting out in the open, many unwatermarked and savable.
I've tried no-right-click schemes and other things in the past, and found that they're largely a waste of time imho. A simple screen grab or a peek inside your saved internet files cache negates that, just to name a few methods (of course, I just started creating PDF files myself, and there may very well be better methods to thwart people with that, I just haven't played around with it enough. This is more speaking of images displayed on web pages without the fancy PDF wrapping). If there's a will on the internet, there's a way, and this sort of thing only really stops genuine newbs. Anyone who's been on the internet any length of time, however, can probably side-step things easily enough and get what they want. I guess I just decided a long time ago that this is one of the pitfalls of sharing material online. I really just want to share with other fans, and if some of them want to abuse that it's on them.
And if I'm totally honest, I'm also lazy and don't have time to tack on a bunch of extra scripting and secret compartments on the site.
That said, I don't object to a members only forum. I figure sites are free to take whatever steps they feel necessary to secure their content and get more traffic/membership. This is a nice marriage of both.
3) Copyright. It is iffy territory and for a long time I really resisted posting anything in full. My reasoning turned, at least concerning the ancient stuff that's out of print, I'd give it a shot. Worst than can happen is they C&D you and you take the stuff down. But like I said, WB is at least aware of my site and they haven't said anything yet. Dunno about Marvel, but really, it's not like either of those companies are profiting off sales of the comics. If anything, it might be collectors that get hosed somewhat, but there's a counter-argument to that, too.
The Wildstorm issues, on the other hand, I do think are too new to give them this treatment. A few years ago, I knew of a few sites that got C&D'd for posting up full issues - however, I concede this was while they were still being released and actively sold in comic book stores. Still, it seems a little soon and I'm at least not willing to quite risk it yet.
However, one of those sites also had some old story books posted up and were able to leave that up so...either WB doesn't have that in their interests, or they do but just don't care.
I don't advocate online sharing of the episodes either, not since the DVDs have been coming out for the same reason. WB, I've found, does get testy when their profits might take a hit from our little projects ;) And I can't say I blame 'em.
The flip side is sites like ours are free advertising for their franchise, done at our expense, and they don't have to pay us to keep the nostalgia machine chugging along. Really, they should be thanking us :mischievous: At any rate, in light of that I don't think they'd just get any of us shut down for this activity. I'm fairly certain they'd at least contact us and tell us to take down the offending portion of content to which I'm with you guys - I'd comply in an instant. And I'm most likely to get caught out, too, so if that happens I'll be sure to give you a head's up.
4) Blocking remote linking. Good idea, especially if you're going to the effort to memebers only this material. You might want to consider doing that for the whole site, maybe via htaccess, because I have seen your content hot-linked quite a bit.
I know I can afford the bandwidth drain that can cause (dunno about you) now, but I still like the traffic. And if people have to go to the extra effort to save the image and then repost it, they may not in favor of just leaving a link to the page at your site they saw the info on.
I'm sure Kyle and Manny have it under control, but you know me and my unsolicited two cents ;)
Hmm, hope I hit all the points I wanted to. I'm sure I'll come back to babble more if I realized I missed anything. Good luck with your comics section and let me know if I can help you with anything.
:cheetaraveryhappy:
1) On the subject of offered material. I can't speak for Queenie, but I don't care one way or the other. The offer from me is just an offer and I understand that sites may want to do their own scanning work so they can do the formatting, sizing and so on they wish. I'm cool with that.
I took Queenie up on her offer even though I too own all the US issues anyway because upon making this decision to host in full certain OOP items, I realized I'd have a butt-load of scanning to do, I don't have a whole crew working on my site like you all have, and frankly, I'm simply grateful for time-saved in that department.
However, I will be posting up all the UK issues I own (roughly about half of what is out there so far), the magazines, coloring books, and some other items...and I already have all the books I own up and most of the annuals (got one left to scan in, and I admit, some of the pages didn't fare well cuz it's darn hard to get a hard-cover book to lay flat in the kind of scanner I have and even page straightening efforts in photoshop could only do so much). Point is, if there's a hole in your collections and I have it posted up, the offer still stands for TCL to use it to make your collections more complete. Queenie and I sort of have a mutual agreement there, where we can share alike as long as due credit is given to the original scanner of the material. Whether you all want to offer me the same dibs in kind is up to you, but it's not required. Suit yourselves.
2) I'm afraid I do just have my scans sitting out in the open, many unwatermarked and savable.
I've tried no-right-click schemes and other things in the past, and found that they're largely a waste of time imho. A simple screen grab or a peek inside your saved internet files cache negates that, just to name a few methods (of course, I just started creating PDF files myself, and there may very well be better methods to thwart people with that, I just haven't played around with it enough. This is more speaking of images displayed on web pages without the fancy PDF wrapping). If there's a will on the internet, there's a way, and this sort of thing only really stops genuine newbs. Anyone who's been on the internet any length of time, however, can probably side-step things easily enough and get what they want. I guess I just decided a long time ago that this is one of the pitfalls of sharing material online. I really just want to share with other fans, and if some of them want to abuse that it's on them.
And if I'm totally honest, I'm also lazy and don't have time to tack on a bunch of extra scripting and secret compartments on the site.
That said, I don't object to a members only forum. I figure sites are free to take whatever steps they feel necessary to secure their content and get more traffic/membership. This is a nice marriage of both.
3) Copyright. It is iffy territory and for a long time I really resisted posting anything in full. My reasoning turned, at least concerning the ancient stuff that's out of print, I'd give it a shot. Worst than can happen is they C&D you and you take the stuff down. But like I said, WB is at least aware of my site and they haven't said anything yet. Dunno about Marvel, but really, it's not like either of those companies are profiting off sales of the comics. If anything, it might be collectors that get hosed somewhat, but there's a counter-argument to that, too.
The Wildstorm issues, on the other hand, I do think are too new to give them this treatment. A few years ago, I knew of a few sites that got C&D'd for posting up full issues - however, I concede this was while they were still being released and actively sold in comic book stores. Still, it seems a little soon and I'm at least not willing to quite risk it yet.
However, one of those sites also had some old story books posted up and were able to leave that up so...either WB doesn't have that in their interests, or they do but just don't care.
I don't advocate online sharing of the episodes either, not since the DVDs have been coming out for the same reason. WB, I've found, does get testy when their profits might take a hit from our little projects ;) And I can't say I blame 'em.
The flip side is sites like ours are free advertising for their franchise, done at our expense, and they don't have to pay us to keep the nostalgia machine chugging along. Really, they should be thanking us :mischievous: At any rate, in light of that I don't think they'd just get any of us shut down for this activity. I'm fairly certain they'd at least contact us and tell us to take down the offending portion of content to which I'm with you guys - I'd comply in an instant. And I'm most likely to get caught out, too, so if that happens I'll be sure to give you a head's up.
4) Blocking remote linking. Good idea, especially if you're going to the effort to memebers only this material. You might want to consider doing that for the whole site, maybe via htaccess, because I have seen your content hot-linked quite a bit.
I know I can afford the bandwidth drain that can cause (dunno about you) now, but I still like the traffic. And if people have to go to the extra effort to save the image and then repost it, they may not in favor of just leaving a link to the page at your site they saw the info on.
I'm sure Kyle and Manny have it under control, but you know me and my unsolicited two cents ;)
Hmm, hope I hit all the points I wanted to. I'm sure I'll come back to babble more if I realized I missed anything. Good luck with your comics section and let me know if I can help you with anything.
:cheetaraveryhappy:
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#24 FEB 11, 2007 · 19 yr ago
Angie you have made some very interesting points. I for one did not mean in any way to lessen the offer that was given to us to host the scans because truthfully if we by any chance are missing any issues or have any holes in the collection we will ask for any help as well.Its a two way street and we would share so long as credit is given. I think it goes without saying that we would share content as well so long as you said credit is given were it is due.After all this is for the fans.
On the watermark issue, thats something that can easily be bypassed as well as saving any work that is put out online. Nothing is safe on the web and things could easily get "borrowed". Placing some sort of security on the documents is great and should be done to a certain extent but IMO not tothe extent were one would have to go out scripting pages and taking time that could be used for something more useful.
On the copyright issue,well I couldnt agree more and while I would like the newer comics to be online as well it may be too soon for that so in essence the older material should suffice and keep fans busy for a long while.
I think you hit all the right points and it helps clarify things a bit more on the issue of putingthings online.
EDIT: Chris I wasnt aware that you were already starting to download the files. I think however that you upload the rest of the ones you have downloaded (from issue #2 and on) and we make it available. I can edit the document properties to disable certain things which could make it a little bit harder for people to save the file. In the end though theyre available on the net and if someone doesnt download them from here they will go somewhere else to download them so in the end its a double edged sword.I think however the password protect feature should work just right. If you can scan what you have and place them in a predetermined folder I can do the PDF conversion and do the necessary editing
On the watermark issue, thats something that can easily be bypassed as well as saving any work that is put out online. Nothing is safe on the web and things could easily get "borrowed". Placing some sort of security on the documents is great and should be done to a certain extent but IMO not tothe extent were one would have to go out scripting pages and taking time that could be used for something more useful.
On the copyright issue,well I couldnt agree more and while I would like the newer comics to be online as well it may be too soon for that so in essence the older material should suffice and keep fans busy for a long while.
I think you hit all the right points and it helps clarify things a bit more on the issue of putingthings online.
EDIT: Chris I wasnt aware that you were already starting to download the files. I think however that you upload the rest of the ones you have downloaded (from issue #2 and on) and we make it available. I can edit the document properties to disable certain things which could make it a little bit harder for people to save the file. In the end though theyre available on the net and if someone doesnt download them from here they will go somewhere else to download them so in the end its a double edged sword.I think however the password protect feature should work just right. If you can scan what you have and place them in a predetermined folder I can do the PDF conversion and do the necessary editing
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#25 FEB 11, 2007 · 19 yr ago
Cool. I didn't mean to imply that your going the scan-our-own route meant you wouldn't share with me or EOT, but then, I never like to assume anything and I certainly never expect anything. I guess it was Jackalman that said "Never expect a favor for a favor", or something like that ;) But it's good to be clear so I'm glad that's all hashed out and in the open. Beats hurt feelings stemming from misunderstandings in the future, anyway.
There was one time I thought I had an agreement with one fellow, and it turned out he had a wholly different idea, we misunderstood each other and drama ensued. Definitely want to avoid that here!
One more note on copyrights...I think it was Cheezey's site that's hosted a few complete star issues for years and she's never had a problem that I know of. So either nobody of importance noticed or they just don't care.
There was one time I thought I had an agreement with one fellow, and it turned out he had a wholly different idea, we misunderstood each other and drama ensued. Definitely want to avoid that here!
One more note on copyrights...I think it was Cheezey's site that's hosted a few complete star issues for years and she's never had a problem that I know of. So either nobody of importance noticed or they just don't care.
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#26 FEB 11, 2007 · 19 yr ago
"Purrsia, post: 13313" said:
4) Blocking remote linking. Good idea, especially if you're going to the effort to memebers only this material. You might want to consider doing that for the whole site, maybe via htaccess, because I have seen your content hot-linked quite a bit.
I know I can afford the bandwidth drain that can cause (dunno about you) now, but I still like the traffic. And if people have to go to the extra effort to save the image and then repost it, they may not in favor of just leaving a link to the page at your site they saw the info on.
I'm sure Kyle and Manny have it under control, but you know me and my unsolicited two cents ;)
I've tried blocking the remote linking Purrsia, but I've found that it causes the Flash images to stop working in the Toy Guide. I've actually wanted to take advantage of that feature, but unfortunately it's a lot complicated than I thought...and from what I gathered, if I enable the blocking of remote links, it has to be site-wide...unless I read it wrong. Since we recently moved to a new host, I may have to double check if things have changed, but thanks for reminding me about that feature Purrsia. :)
Manny: I think there is a way to disable the save function from Adobe Reader. I don't know how, but if we do some research I believe it's possible to do. I have the full version of Adobe Reader so that might have something to do with having that particular feature. I'll check if I have that feature in my version.
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#27 FEB 11, 2007 · 19 yr ago
Ah, yeah. I don't know how to use flash so I've never run into that problem. I do think you can protect only certain directories, and that might cut down on it some, if your toy stuff is kept in a seperate directory. Indeed, a lot depends on what your hosting is like and what it allows. Some don't even let you upload your own htaccess files, so that can be limiting sometimes.
Good luck :)
Good luck :)
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#28 FEB 12, 2007 · 19 yr ago
"Manny, post: 13317" said:
Manny: I think there is a way to disable the save function from Adobe Reader. I don't know how, but if we do some research I believe it's possible to do. I have the full version of Adobe Reader so that might have something to do with having that particular feature. I'll check if I have that feature in my version.
I have looked but I have not found anything to disable the save function. However the one thing i could manage to do was to hide the menu bars and tool bar. It eliminated the portion were you can save the file but it can still be save with the "save target as" function. If you come up with something let me know and I can take on that task so people can start enjoying the comics soon
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#29 MAR 9, 2007 · 19 yr ago
Sorry for the back to back posts but I was just wondering since the update is coming soon if the Star Issues were going to be made available. If so I think it would be great because we could finally open the members only forum. On a side note I must say that I have acuired scans of most if not all the newer Thundercats issues (Wildstorm+ Crossovers). It would be great to host those but due to them being so new it may not be a good idea, then again how would WB know of them if its members only area.
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#30 MAR 9, 2007 · 19 yr ago
Chris here...
Apologies for the delay in replying, MannyC - yesterday was a bit of a stressful day for me. There's a thread about it on the Other Board... :)
Thanks for reminding me about this - as I said when we spoke verbally the other day, the only thing that concerns me is the fact that the PDF files are able to be downloaded and saved to people's hard drives, which is a facility that I'd hoped to disable. However, if this can't be done then I'm happy if you guys are happy, so I'd say sure, flip the switch on the Members Only area when we update! :)
I will say that at the present time I really don't think we should make the newer DC/Wildstorm issues available in the Members Only area - the reason why I say this is because these issues are still in print in trade paperback form, and so if we were to put these online we are potentially damaging sales for an existing product! :) Once these are completely out-of-print it could well be a different story, but I have to be honest and say it'll be some time before I'd be comfortable making those issues available online... :(
Hope that answers all your questions, my friend - and, thanks again for reminding me about this! :)
Take care... :)
Apologies for the delay in replying, MannyC - yesterday was a bit of a stressful day for me. There's a thread about it on the Other Board... :)
Thanks for reminding me about this - as I said when we spoke verbally the other day, the only thing that concerns me is the fact that the PDF files are able to be downloaded and saved to people's hard drives, which is a facility that I'd hoped to disable. However, if this can't be done then I'm happy if you guys are happy, so I'd say sure, flip the switch on the Members Only area when we update! :)
I will say that at the present time I really don't think we should make the newer DC/Wildstorm issues available in the Members Only area - the reason why I say this is because these issues are still in print in trade paperback form, and so if we were to put these online we are potentially damaging sales for an existing product! :) Once these are completely out-of-print it could well be a different story, but I have to be honest and say it'll be some time before I'd be comfortable making those issues available online... :(
Hope that answers all your questions, my friend - and, thanks again for reminding me about this! :)
Take care... :)
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#31 MAR 9, 2007 · 19 yr ago
I agree with the Wildstorm issues, I guess when the time comes when we can post them it will be work saved with the scanning. I'll upload them when I have some time in the directory. Is it possible for you to upload the scanned Star issues you have so I can do whats necesary and make that area accessible?
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#32 MAR 9, 2007 · 19 yr ago
Chris here...
I haven't scanned any myself (apart from the covers for the Comic Section some time ago) - I've just looked over this thread and just noticed your question to me:
I apologise, MannyC, I should have responded to this earlier, I didn't notice the question! :oops: When I said in an earlier post that I had downloaded a file, the file I was referring to was the Star Comics Issue #1 PDF file that you'd uploaded - I don't have any complete issues scanned at my end at the moment. :(
I doubt I'll get chance to do it before the update, but if you like I'd be happy to do some scanning for these - I'm not just saying this to get myself "off the hook", I think actually it might work best if to start with we only uploaded an issue or two and then added updates to that area, to keep folks coming back for more! :)
Take care... :)
"MannysCollectibles, post: 13801" said:
Is it possible for you to upload the scanned Star issues you have so I can do whats necesary and make that area accessible?
I haven't scanned any myself (apart from the covers for the Comic Section some time ago) - I've just looked over this thread and just noticed your question to me:
MannysCollectibles said:
Chris I wasnt aware that you were already starting to download the files. I think however that you upload the rest of the ones you have downloaded (from issue #2 and on) and we make it available.
I apologise, MannyC, I should have responded to this earlier, I didn't notice the question! :oops: When I said in an earlier post that I had downloaded a file, the file I was referring to was the Star Comics Issue #1 PDF file that you'd uploaded - I don't have any complete issues scanned at my end at the moment. :(
I doubt I'll get chance to do it before the update, but if you like I'd be happy to do some scanning for these - I'm not just saying this to get myself "off the hook", I think actually it might work best if to start with we only uploaded an issue or two and then added updates to that area, to keep folks coming back for more! :)
Take care... :)
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#33 MAR 10, 2007 · 19 yr ago
I originally thought you had downloaded the ones from EOT.net.In any case I can contact queen lynxana just to let her know we woul be hosting the ones she has here on TCL. We can put up the ones she has and we can continue slowly adding the rest of them from the ones you have. I think we can perhaps add 2 issues bi-monthly
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#34 MAR 10, 2007 · 19 yr ago
Chris here...
LOL, my apologies, Manny my friend, I should have been clearer! :)
I think that's a splendid suggestion, and that's the route I'd be inclined to go down for sure! :)
Take care... :)
"MannysCollectibles, post: 13807" said:
I originally thought you had downloaded the ones from EOT.net.
LOL, my apologies, Manny my friend, I should have been clearer! :)
"MannysCollectibles, post: 13807" said:
In any case I can contact queen lynxana just to let her know we woul be hosting the ones she has here on TCL. We can put up the ones she has and we can continue slowly adding the rest of them from the ones you have. I think we can perhaps add 2 issues bi-monthly
I think that's a splendid suggestion, and that's the route I'd be inclined to go down for sure! :)
Take care... :)
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#35 MAR 10, 2007 · 19 yr ago
I have been given the ok to host the comics, howver being that EOT.net has been kind enough to let us use issues 2-15 we can accelerate the process and begin scanning the UK comcis. Chris, if its ok with you could you start scanning the UK issues that way we can start posting those. I would do it but I dont have any UK issues. We can do 1 or 2 of those evry week or every 2 weeks.
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#36 MAR 11, 2007 · 19 yr ago
Chris here...
Yep, I'd be happy to start doing those, although I'd rather not commit myself to a time limit on them - I love the concept of making some of those great stories available to the TCL community, there's some pretty innovative stuff in those UK issues, such as an origin story for the Berbils! :)
Take care... :)
"MannysCollectibles, post: 13816" said:
I have been given the ok to host the comics, howver being that EOT.net has been kind enough to let us use issues 2-15 we can accelerate the process and begin scanning the UK comcis. Chris, if its ok with you could you start scanning the UK issues that way we can start posting those. I would do it but I dont have any UK issues. We can do 1 or 2 of those evry week or every 2 weeks.
Yep, I'd be happy to start doing those, although I'd rather not commit myself to a time limit on them - I love the concept of making some of those great stories available to the TCL community, there's some pretty innovative stuff in those UK issues, such as an origin story for the Berbils! :)
Take care... :)
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#37 MAR 11, 2007 · 19 yr ago
"He-Fan, post: 13835" said:
Chris here...
Yep, I'd be happy to start doing those, although I'd rather not commit myself to a time limit on them - I love the concept of making some of those great stories available to the TCL community, there's some pretty innovative stuff in those UK issues, such as an origin story for the Berbils! :)
Take care... :)
Im cool with no time restraints, If you can start on the first UK issue we can add that in the very near future. I would scan them but I dont have any UK issues and so it basically falls on those that have them
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#38 MAR 11, 2007 · 19 yr ago
Chris here...
That's cool, MannyC, no problems - I would add that I don't have anywhere near all the UK issues, and some that I do have are not worth scanning because they're basically reprints of the US issues. I do, however, have a lot of the UK-produced stories, and so I could scan those - I'll get on it as soon as I'm able! :)
Take care... :)
"MannysCollectibles, post: 13843" said:
Im cool with no time restraints, If you can start on the first UK issue we can add that in the very near future. I would scan them but I dont have any UK issues and so it basically falls on those that have them
That's cool, MannyC, no problems - I would add that I don't have anywhere near all the UK issues, and some that I do have are not worth scanning because they're basically reprints of the US issues. I do, however, have a lot of the UK-produced stories, and so I could scan those - I'll get on it as soon as I'm able! :)
Take care... :)
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#39 FEB 21, 2011 · 15 yr ago
Chris here...
Holy thread revival, Batman!! :o :eek:
I'm reviving this really old thread because it seemed the easiest way of bringing this subject back up. I'm being contacted semi-frequently by fans and forum members offering to scan full comics for our Comic Section and make them available on this site. Queen Lynxana, Angie, and also Saint Doyle have all been in touch about this issue, and so I felt it was worth looking at again. :)
Looking at my own comments on this old thread, to be honest a lot of the worries I have still stand - and, reading Angie's comments on this old thread, it seems her own view hasn't changed much either, LOL! :)
Here are some disorganised thoughts on this:
- I wouldn't be happy making the DC/Wildstorm issues available (and in fact Angie agrees with me on this) because they are still just-about in print, and have also been produced under Warner Bros' watch.
- Angie says she's had full comic scans of some of the 1980s issues available on her site for years, including when she was in touch with Warner Bros and knows they were checking out her site, and has never had any problems.
- In a way it looks kind-of ungrateful when Angie and these others are offering to share these with us and we say no.
- If we were to make full comic downloads for the UK and 1980s Marvel/Star issues, it would make a lot of fans happy...and save me a hell of a lot of synopsis typing! ;)
- On the other hand, they are still copyrighted material, and if WB are starting to look at ThunderCats as a hot property, it may "up the ante" in terms of what we have available on this site and what they consider infringes their copyright...plus, Marvel Comics themselves are no small fry either! ;)
One way of working around this would be to revive the "Members' Only" forum as a means of making these available...whilst it limits the number of fans who can access them it also means that someone from WB (or wherever) couldn't access them unless somebody from there signed up to our forums or someone else blew the whistle on us. :)
It's been 4 years now since we last spoke about this subject - with the benefit of those years, what do you guys think about this subject now? I'd really appreciate hearing your views! :)
Take care... :)
Holy thread revival, Batman!! :o :eek:
I'm reviving this really old thread because it seemed the easiest way of bringing this subject back up. I'm being contacted semi-frequently by fans and forum members offering to scan full comics for our Comic Section and make them available on this site. Queen Lynxana, Angie, and also Saint Doyle have all been in touch about this issue, and so I felt it was worth looking at again. :)
Looking at my own comments on this old thread, to be honest a lot of the worries I have still stand - and, reading Angie's comments on this old thread, it seems her own view hasn't changed much either, LOL! :)
Here are some disorganised thoughts on this:
- I wouldn't be happy making the DC/Wildstorm issues available (and in fact Angie agrees with me on this) because they are still just-about in print, and have also been produced under Warner Bros' watch.
- Angie says she's had full comic scans of some of the 1980s issues available on her site for years, including when she was in touch with Warner Bros and knows they were checking out her site, and has never had any problems.
- In a way it looks kind-of ungrateful when Angie and these others are offering to share these with us and we say no.
- If we were to make full comic downloads for the UK and 1980s Marvel/Star issues, it would make a lot of fans happy...and save me a hell of a lot of synopsis typing! ;)
- On the other hand, they are still copyrighted material, and if WB are starting to look at ThunderCats as a hot property, it may "up the ante" in terms of what we have available on this site and what they consider infringes their copyright...plus, Marvel Comics themselves are no small fry either! ;)
One way of working around this would be to revive the "Members' Only" forum as a means of making these available...whilst it limits the number of fans who can access them it also means that someone from WB (or wherever) couldn't access them unless somebody from there signed up to our forums or someone else blew the whistle on us. :)
It's been 4 years now since we last spoke about this subject - with the benefit of those years, what do you guys think about this subject now? I'd really appreciate hearing your views! :)
Take care... :)
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#40 FEB 21, 2011 · 15 yr ago
Even though I was totally outnumbered last time, unfortunately my opinion still remains that I think it's wrong to host these. It damages the collectibility and also steps on copyrights.
However if the majority of the Team want to see them up I have no objections, on the basis that if I do receive a cease and desist, that they are nuked pronto! ;) What I mean is, no procrastinating like what happened with the movie script ;)
However if the majority of the Team want to see them up I have no objections, on the basis that if I do receive a cease and desist, that they are nuked pronto! ;) What I mean is, no procrastinating like what happened with the movie script ;)
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