bill_burroughs vs Endorx (Liar Dice related)

Two threads, see links below. This bill_burroughs, in my opinion, is defending Liar Dice way too much. He claims to have dealt with Wayne, and to "know" Endorx never made a payment. The only way to know for sure is to see Wayne's PayPal account. Not very likely for a seller to give a customer that info. It would not surprise me to find out that bill is Liar Dice, but as of yet, there is no proof of that.

http://www.thundercatslair.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7861

http://www.thundercatslair.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7860

could they be the same person?

Chris here...

I will bet you any amount of money that "Bill Boroughs" is Wayne Daniels - my own view is that, whether he is or he isn't, he should be banned. He's come over here and basically made some serious attacks against Endorx. :(

I'm not actually a big fan of Endorx either, I think he's a very "hot under the collar", sarcastic, blunt-speaking individual - but, in this instance I feel he's the injured party. :)

Thoughts from the rest of you before we push the magic Ban Button? :D

Take care... :)

I'm on it. I asked him to stop harassing other members, I may as well be the one to follow through.

Chris here...

"mcss aerocoupe, post: 59204" said:

I'm on it. I asked him to stop harassing other members, I may as well be the one to follow through.

Cool, thanks! :) Keep me posted if you need any "Admin backup"! (Where's a "bazooka" smiley when you need one??) ;)

Endorx also started up a new thread about this with PayPal print screens, which I've merged with the old thread that was locked and have locked it down once again - my own instincts are that Endorx is on the level on this occasion. Obviously you can fake a PayPal print screen in Photoshop, but my own instinct is that he isn't doing it - I feel that "Bill Burroughs" behaviour is too suspicious whilst Endorx's isn't.

Keep us posted, and as I say, LMK if you need any feedback or backup. :)

Take care... :)

I think locking and posting in that other thread was backup enough.

Considering how much he was provoked, I really can't blame Endorx for reacting like that.

Hey, I banned bill and look who logged in, a Liar Dice account. < sarcasim > What a surprise!! < /sarcasim >

I wonder if Liar Dice has any valid accounts we missed nuking? Guess we'll find out soon.

I do see any real point in the thread continuing so I've locked it. It will just turn into a back and forth about Wayne Daniels selling the piece. It was only one big ad for Wayne Daniels auctions which I choose not to support. I'd like any links to his auctions in the future immediatly nuking. Wayne is such an untrustworthy character I really don't want any of our members involved in trading with him via our forums in any way whatsoever.

He is obviously trying to get exposure to sell these items via our traffic, so it wouldn't surprise me at all Bill Burroughs/Wayne Daniels being one and the same :rolleyes:

I've also soft deleted the back and forth between Endorx and Bill Burroughs in the feedback forum thread. It's obviously Wayne Daniels, so no point in those posts staying up publicly.

Sounds good to me.

FYI, the eBay username for Wayne Daniels is drlam_uk Just in case we see any eBay listings we think are his posted, we'll know what seller we are nuking.

Chris here...

Aero, big thumbs up for the way you dealt with this - excellent stuff and very much appreciated! :thumbsup:

I'm happy with everything else, I left the Mumm-Ra sculpt thread open because I thought some collectors might be interested in discussing the piece itself, but I'm in agreement with your thinking, Neil. :)

And yeah, no surprise to discover evidence that "bill_burroughs" is Wayne, I must admit I've rarely encountered an individual on the Internet who comes over as more obsessive and mentally disturbed than him! :eek:

Take care... :)

Um, guys, he's back...

New member Byron (remember last episode, Mumm-Ra's champion in the Book of Omens?), fits Wayne's dummy account methodology of having accounts named after characters (RedEye). Also, bill's E-mail provider was @hush.com, Byron's is @hush.ai. And if that isn't enough, IP address 82.132.242.60 was used by both bill and Byron.

Do we do a preemptive nuke and let him know he needs to change his tactics to get in again? Or just keep an eye on him and as soon as he says something, nuke him then?

"mcss aerocoupe, post: 59289" said:

Um, guys, he's back...

New member Byron (remember last episode, Mumm-Ra's champion in the Book of Omens?), fits Wayne's dummy account methodology of having accounts named after characters (RedEye). Also, bill's E-mail provider was @hush.com, Byron's is @hush.ai. And if that isn't enough, IP address 82.132.242.60 was used by both bill and Byron.

Do we do a preemptive nuke and let him know he needs to change his tactics to get in again? Or just keep an eye on him and as soon as he says something, nuke him then?

This one is too easy. I just plain deleted him and banned his IP address

Might be worth blocking the @hush.com, @hush.net etc... email addresses too.